I Wanna See Stars...

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 08/08/2017 at 10:15 • Filed to: None

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So, we’re moving to the country (close in one week!). Was hoping to be out far enough to see the Milky Way, but looks like that may have been wishful thinking. Check out this site. We’re moving from the fringe of red to the yellow zone. Definitely will see more stars, but not sure if it will be dark enough to catch the Milky Way...

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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 10:15

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If Kinja’d: http://darksitefinder.com/maps/world.html

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 10:20

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Location of my sister-in-law’s family’s ranch we got to visit several times before they sold it. Pretty much my favorite place on Earth...

OPPOsaurus WRX > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 10:22

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i’m thinking you need to be green maybe even blue. i’m a dead center in an orange.

EL_ULY > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 10:30

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hmmm........

Wacko > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 10:38

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i live in a dark remote place!

Milky > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 10:41

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Well that proves it. I’ve had the thought that Michigan’s international dark sky park was bullshit. But I was wrong. My dad’s house growing up was in the blue and the park is in the grey. Its the little peninsula sticking out between Beaver Island and Mackinaw City.

Doesn’t help you out, but I was curious.

notsomethingstructural > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 10:56

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I’ve seen the milky way from the yellow zone.

LastFirstMI is my name > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 11:05

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Thanks for this map- great timing! I’m hoping to go camp out and watch the Perseus meteor shower this weekend.

LastFirstMI is my name > LastFirstMI is my name 08/08/2017 at 11:06

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*Perseid. DYAC.

CaptDale - is secretly British > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 11:26

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Just take a nice trip to our friends in North Korea

functionoverfashion > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 11:53

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That is a cool tool. I live in a dark green/light green area, and I can definitely see the milky way on clear nights. I can also see the glow from even a small town (<5000 people) to my south west, though.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > functionoverfashion 08/08/2017 at 11:55

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How many miles are you from the town center?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CaptDale - is secretly British 08/08/2017 at 11:56

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Funny/sad...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > LastFirstMI is my name 08/08/2017 at 11:56

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Nice - have fun!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > notsomethingstructural 08/08/2017 at 11:56

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This is what I wanted to hear!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Milky 08/08/2017 at 11:59

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Pretty cool!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Wacko 08/08/2017 at 12:00

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Nice! (if you like that sort of thing)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > EL_ULY 08/08/2017 at 12:00

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Get a boat?

functionoverfashion > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 12:02

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Probably 3 miles? But I get some light pollution from the Strip Mall District which is northwest of town, so due west of me. And it keeps growing, but at least most places now put in down-facing LED streetlights instead.

Semi-related: every time I fly into or out of an airport at night, I marvel at the seemingly endless areas of the world that are lit with streetlights, and just shake my figurative head at all the things we do in our house to try and save energy. I shut off the lights when I leave the room, and here are thousands of miles of ROADS lit all the time, dusk to dawn. /end rant

notsomethingstructural > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 12:12

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It’s not gonna jump out at you, but it’s definitely there

ttyymmnn > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 12:12

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That is also a great map to show “civilization,” or at least population centers that have electricity.

CaptDale - is secretly British > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 12:13

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Sad, but a lot of Asia is like that. Most of Russia, most of China, Burma, Cambodia, Laos, and others. There is just a lot of mountainous area and farming. Can’t be developed like here

EL_ULY > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 12:32

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DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 12:58

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Thanks for that link, I’ll have to mess with it a bit.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > EL_ULY 08/08/2017 at 14:21

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Hahaha! The internet never fails.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CaptDale - is secretly British 08/08/2017 at 14:23

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Especially sad in N. Korea, because of how oppressed the people are and they’re so close to freedom and prosperity in their neighbors to the south. I don’t think it’s sad to live far away from civilization; I’d honestly prefer it in many ways.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ttyymmnn 08/08/2017 at 14:25

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I’m guessing this is pretty much just the map of the Earth at night, just shown a different way...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > functionoverfashion 08/08/2017 at 14:28

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Okay, we’ll be about 6 from a town to our SW.

Safety, I guess? I don’t know...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti 08/08/2017 at 14:30

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Pretty nice resource. Ever try your hand at some astronomical photography?

user314 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 14:41

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Well, this is not encouraging:

Although, our problem is more often cloud cover than anything else.

functionoverfashion > CaptDale - is secretly British 08/08/2017 at 14:43

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That’s a lot of open oppo tabs...

DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 14:57

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Not too much. My wife is the actual photographer in our family. I have a good eye, but take pretty much all my pictures with my phone. She actually high end gear. I tried to snap a picture of the Milky Way with one of her cameras using idiot settings. It was a lot more visible than it is in the photo.

That picture was taken on the edge of a wilderness area in the middle of nowhere northern Arizona.

CaptDale - is secretly British > functionoverfashion 08/08/2017 at 15:00

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So I go into Oppo and scroll down the page opening all the posts I want to read in new tabs and then I don’t lose my place going through all the posts on Oppo I haven’t read till I get to the last one I read the day before.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 16:53

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I’m right smack in the red myself. :(

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > EL_ULY 08/08/2017 at 16:55

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How seaworthy is your boat Uly? I need to see what things look like outside of the red zone.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > user314 08/08/2017 at 17:06

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I’m planning to take my wife & kids to my brother’s place in mid-Missouri for the eclipse - hoping for the clearest of clear skies!

EL_ULY > Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy 08/08/2017 at 17:09

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Charleston is such a rad town. Good times. More will be had on that boat. You bring the chips and dip.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy 08/08/2017 at 17:11

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Just need a boat!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CaptDale - is secretly British 08/08/2017 at 17:11

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I do the exact same thing.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > functionoverfashion 08/08/2017 at 17:11

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[shame]

CaptDale - is secretly British > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 17:14

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I mean it makes sense. That way i can get caught up on everything I missed out on.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti 08/08/2017 at 17:14

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Trees picking up light from the fire, I’m guessing? Our eyes truly are amazing instruments... I’ve taken some decent Milky Way photos with a good camera, a tripod and a fairly long exposure, in the middle of nowhere Colorado.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti 08/08/2017 at 17:16

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http://oppositelock.kinja.com/1797632300

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CaptDale - is secretly British 08/08/2017 at 17:19

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It makes perfect sense until you’re doing it on your phone and you haven’t been on OPPO for a while and you never went through the 20 tabs from a few days ago and you end with so many that you crash mobile Chrome...

DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 17:23

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Yep. Pretty crazy to think about hiw much money you’d have to spend on a camera just to mimic what our eyes already do.

CaptDale - is secretly British > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 17:29

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Yeah I don’t Oppo mobile unless I am really bored and just perusing. Or I am posting DOTs

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti 08/08/2017 at 17:39

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Definitely, and I don’t think it’s possible just yet to match it. Clearly, low light performance of sensors in recent years has gotten amazing - surpassing what the human eye can see, but the eye’s ability to adjust “exposure” on the fly and build a composite picture in our brain of everything is hard to replicate (in camera, anyway - HDR and combining multiple exposures can get close).

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CaptDale - is secretly British 08/08/2017 at 17:40

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Mobile Kinja is worst Kinja.

DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 17:46

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The center of the screen is where I took that picture. A little island of blackness.

DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 17:51

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I have this theory that optics is one of the main driving forces behind the intellectual and philosophical advancements that have occured since the Renaissance. Telescopes completely revolutionized how we saw ourselves in regards the to heavens and microscopes did the same for how we understand where we fit in here on earth. Light, it’s an amazing thing.

CaptDale - is secretly British > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 17:58

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It is so bad. I just want to build an app for it that would work so badly.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti 08/08/2017 at 18:09

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That’s cool to think about. Wanting to see more of our planet, solar system, galaxy is absolutely the motivation for most exploration on land, under the sea, and into space.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti 08/08/2017 at 18:15

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Nice. When we were in Sedona for a long weekend this summer (for our anniversary), late one night my wife had already fallen asleep, and I went to sit out on the back porch of our rental. It was a full moon, backlighting the red rocks so they were black against the not-quite-black sky. There was a cool breeze, and since it was well after midnight, traffic was pretty much non-existent. It was so quiet that I could hear the drums from a pow wow that must have been going on miles away. The drumming would swell up and down, and every once in a while, there’d be a break and a chorus of hoots and howls would break out. I must have sat there and listened in silence for well over an hour. It was all I could do not to howl back in reply...

DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/08/2017 at 18:49

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I had a pretty similar experience on the last night of our road trip. We camped out at Lee’s Ferry surrounded by red cliffs. I sat up late into the night with my dog listening to the Colorado River and the coyotes.

Reminds me I need to write my last story about that trip.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti 08/08/2017 at 21:44

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Beautiful.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > EL_ULY 08/09/2017 at 10:07

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Yeah man, I love it here. If you’re ever in town, hit me up!

And I’ll definitely bring the chips and salsa. There’s a local farm here that makes some KILLER ghost chili salsa.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/09/2017 at 10:08

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Working on a deal to use Uly’s, hahah!

EL_ULY > Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy 08/09/2017 at 10:12

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heck yeah duuuude, sounds radnessity!